Since I’m all fired up anyway………..
James Fallows has a fantastic article up in this month’s issue of The Atlantic magazine. It should be required reading for all those who love tea-baggery. The piece Fallows wrote about the planning, or lack thereof, of the Iraq war is still available online here. It’s the best single article I’ve ever read about the Bush administration-and should be required reading for all people who think the war in Iraq was….well you know…….necessary.
This time Fallows takes on the article of douche teabagger faith that America is going to hell and it’s all Obama’s fault. Over the course of the article he takes that idea and shreds it politely pointing out that both sides-along with the increasing stupidity of the average American are really to blame. Money quote is at the end:
In principle, the United States could call for a new constitutional convention, to reconsider all the rules. That would be my cue(and mine!) to move back to China for good—pollution, Great Firewall, and all. As a simple thought exercise, imagine the fights over evolution, an “official” language, and countless other “social” questions. “I am perpetually disappointed by our structural resistance to change,” Gary Hart told me, “but can you imagine what would be put into a drafting session for a constitution today?” Kevin Starr said, “You would need a coherent political culture for such a session to occur”—and the lack of such coherence is exactly the problem—“otherwise it would turn into a food fight from Animal House.”
A parliamentary system? This too would improve C-SPAN viewing. But not having started there, we cannot get there.
A viable third party? Attractive in theory. But 150 years of failed attempts by formidable campaigners, ranging from Robert LaFollette to Ross Perot, suggest how unlikely this is too.
We might hope for another Sputnik moment—to be precise, an event frightening enough to stimulate national action without posing a real threat. That kind of “hope” hardly constitutes a plan. In 2001, America endured an event that should have been this era’s Sputnik ; but it wasn’t. It doesn’t help now to rue the lost opportunity, but there is no hiding the fact that it was an enormous loss. What could have been a moment to set our foreign policy and our domestic economy on a path for another 50 years of growth—as Eisenhower helped set a 50-year path with his response to Sputnik —instead created problems that will probably take another 50 years to correct.
That’s yesterday. For tomorrow, we really have only two choices. Doing more, or doing less. Trying to work with our flawed governmental system despite its uncorrectable flaws, or trying to contain the damage that system does to the rest of our society. Muddling through, or starving the beast.
Readers may have guessed that I am not going for the second option: giving up on public efforts and cauterizing our gangrenous government so that the rest of society can survive. But the reason might be unexpected. I have seen enough of the world outside America to be sure that eventually a collapsing public life brings the private sector down with it. If we want to maintain the virtues of private America, we must at least try on the public front too. Rio, Manila, and Mexico City during their respective crime booms; Shanghai in the 1920s and Moscow in the 1990s; Jakarta through the decades; the imagined Los Angeles of Blade Runner —these are all venues in which commerce and opportunity abounded. But the lack of corresponding public virtues—rule of law, expectation of physical safety, infrastructure that people can enjoy or depend on without owning it themselves—made those societies more hellish than they needed to be. When outsiders marvel at today’s China, it is for the combination of private and public advances the country has made. It has private factories and public roads; private office buildings and public schools. Of course this is not some exotic Communist combination. The conjunction of private and public abundance typified America throughout its 20th-century rise. We had the big factories and the broad sidewalks, the stately mansions and the public parks. The private economy was stronger because of the public bulwarks provided by Social Security and Medicare. California is giving the first taste of how the public-private divorce will look—and its historian, Kevin Starr, says the private economy will soon suffer if the government is not repaired. “Through the country’s history, government has had to function correctly for the private sector to flourish,” he said. “John Quincy Adams built the lighthouses and the highways. That’s not ‘socialist’ but ‘Whiggish.’ Now we need ports and highways and an educated populace.” In a nearly $1 trillion stimulus package, it should have been possible to build all those things, in a contemporary, environmentally aware counterpart to the interstate-highway plan. But it didn’t happen; we’ve spent the money, incurred the debt, and done very little to repair what most needs fixing.
Our government is old and broken and dysfunctional, and may even be beyond repair. But Starr is right. Our only sane choice is to muddle through. As human beings, we ultimately become old and broken and dysfunctional—but in the meantime it makes a difference if we try. Our American republic may prove to be doomed, but it will make a difference if we improvise and strive to make the best of the path through our time—and our children’s, and their grandchildren’s—rather than succumb.
The bolded part of the paragraph explains in clear detail why I part company with tea-baggers and hold them in contempt as the low class individuals they are.
There are things that only government can do-and if it need be, it has to raise the revenue to do it. Grover Norquist be damned.
CA is a bad place to look at for an example. It is over regulated, and grossly inefficient. Try going to a DMV one day. Or marvel at in a city such as San Diego, where at any one given time there may be 12 nuclear reactors there, yet they still don’t come up with the bright idea of building more nuclear power plants. Or to take a lesson from the Germans in WW2, at spots along the coast, build a “submarine pen” like the krauts did in France for their U-boats, have DNR shove one of their retiring SSN’s there and let that generate power and oh by the way run a desalinization plant to a thirsty SOCAL. But that kind of thinking would be too far out of the box, which would mean it is pretty practical, and the legislative hurdles needed to get it done would bog it down.
I do believe that we need Health care reform, I am for it. But if the Dems have such a great plan, then just let them discuss it out in the open. If the Reps. don’t like it after it has been aired for all to see, then the unwashed masses of “tea baggers” could see that the Reps. are far off the mark. But, if this plan was so great yet it is all done behind closed doors.
Once again Skippy, I refer to the UFSPA. If they would have had open disucssions and let everyone know what is going on, I am sure many of you guys that are getting screwed would not be getting screwed as much. I also seem to recall from my history books that many of the projects that the author of the article discuss, were openly debated. Once again, if their plan is so good, I would buy into it, but I am not too keen on getting “change I can believe in” without at least looking at it.
My motto is best summed up from a quote I saw in a store once: “In God we Trust, All others strictly cash!” That is how I feel about this bag of tricks that I am about to pay for.
This is deeper than any one particular issue-its about a lack of confidence in the country as a whole, and the manifistation of the teabaggers is that they cannot or will not accept the results of a freely won election. An election that was lost because the party was so busy catering to a narrow bunch of spoilde children rather than trying to build a broad based message-and had to deal with the wreckage of not one but two wars that were not finished yet.
The health care bill is in the open-they have tried for a year to do it openly despite what the whore Malkin says. The Republicans have not offered one constructive suggestion.
Skippy, I lean right on a few issues. Though I did not vote for Obama, I understand that he won. I hope he does well since he is our elected leader. But just because he is in, doesn’t mean that he gets a pass on everything, just like I had doubts about Bush. Think back when “W” was making all of his decisions about Iraq and every other issue. Being former military, I understand the need for not putting all of your intelligence out there, but I have to give it to him, at least we knew what his reasoning was. Yes it was wrong but it was out there.
With this health care, we know it needs to be fixed, but if the Dem plan is so good then the time to be getting the word out about it is now, not after it has been in closed door session. Tea baggers aside, if the Dems that they have announced recently have decided not to run for reelection based on their polling results on how they voted for the bill, that should tell you that it is not just the tea baggers that are pissed. If their bill is such a good deal, then just by their voting for it should not have been why their numbers went down and if they were in a tight race, they should have been able to stand on their record.
Your comments will probably be useful in November, when a lot of Democrats will probably loose their elections. Both sides need to back off on the one narrow bunch and try to work together.
Skippy, were use to being called names, I always just consider the source.
Name calling is what Malkin excels at. It sure as heck is not journalism.
Maurice-the issue with the teabaggers is simple. When they started carrying their stupid signs, using the word socialism when it clearly is not called for, and allowed suppsoed front runner politicians in their party to cater to their wacko conspiracy theories they lost their seat at the table of making a solution.
The Dems who are leaving I think-are leaving for issues that have nothing to with health care-and in fact is probably coming with some assistance from the party leadership and the President. Think if GWB had done that to shitheads like Santorum instead of letting him go full bore crazy-PA might have a Republican senator now. Instead he had to be voted down.
Dems are going to lose seats-but they will probably still keep a majority.
And I just heard on Ed’s show that Huffington Post has emails from Geithner and AIG when he was NY FEd chair, that he advised them NOT to be forthcoming to the Feds about their financial problems.
But I am sure this is just another teabagger wacko conspiracy on that right wing blog called Huffington Post..
oh wait…..
…did Obama know?
Where you sit determines what you advise. Geitner is not perfect-but he did help the nation avoid total economic collapse. Now if Congress wants to subponea him-they have that right. Certainly that is a more worthy thing than worrying about a birth certificate.
But let me ask you this: if it really is about anger with government decisions, where was the anger at getting 5000 Americans killed for a stupid war we had no business fighting in the first place. And if we were going to fight it-why not get angry that the president let his SECDEF get away with, literally, murder by not heeding the advice of his military commanders?
Or why not get angry about the whole series of tax cuts that created the deficit situation to begin with anyway?
Or get really angry that the President created an entitlement program (two to be precise) that equals or surpasses anything done in 2009.
People marching in the streets-nope.
The “anger” that is with Obama-and it really makes no sense. Consider:
1) He’s caved to every demand made by the Teflon General for more troops and war without end in the middle east.
2) He campaigned on health care. He said he was going to get it passed and he did exactly what he said
3) He’s been as aggressive or more than Bush has on strikes in Pakistan on terrorist havens.
4) He’s done a lot to restore the US prestige that Bush frittered away.
Tea party folks don’t like the fact that they don’t get the right to be selfish is all. Half the people at Tea Parties benefit from the very programs that they are bitching about.
Yea Skippy, I’m selfish, I want to keep the healthcare plan I have but the bill will cut it. I want to keep the money I earn but you all think I should pay more in taxes.
And if you really think that BO has restored our US prestige that Bush frittered away, keep whistling as you pass the grave yard.
He wants to give gitmo detaines trials in US courts but he has used drones with missles to attack people in Afganistan. One gets a chance but the other gets a bomb.
Yes I do think you should pay more in taxes-as long as the US wants to fight two unrpoductive wars. Want to save money? Leave Iraq-and Afghanistan, tomorrow.
As for GITMO, its no different than a criminal who gets caught versus shot by police. Teh criminal who gets caught gets a trial-even if the cop saw him do the crime. That’s what is supposed to make the country better than others. Besides in civil terrorist trials the US is batting pretty good for getting convictions.
As for safety-we lock murderers up on US soil.
Skippy, why is it that the same terrorist and his associated people that may be near him can get blown away by a predator drone with authorization from the Commander In Chief, but we will take a few guys who confess that they want to destroy the US and give them a civil trial. You say because we are at war, I can agree, then those idots like the ones in Gitmo, and the “unit bomber” who say they are at war with us should be offered the same justice as those innocents who may be sitting in the same cave when the predator drops their bombs.
I say we pull out of IZ and AG, but at least declare openly that those radicals, not the entire Muslim population are out to harm us, and then we can use some of those tough measures closer to home than far away.
For the same reason we don’t shoot POW’s. We captured them-their status changed. That’s it.
We can be as harsh as we choose to-but please don’t pretend we are somehow also a bright shining city on a hill if we do.
Plus civil trials do not, as a rule, aquit people. OJ is the exception not the rule. If these people are guilty-then the government can make the case, and giving them a defense is the just thing to do and strengthens our position on the moral high ground.
Otherwise we are just another colonial power-in fact we are worse than another colonial power because we don’t allow ourselves to have any of the perks of Empire.
You will get your wish to pay more taxes, the healthcare bill has a marriage penalty tax that will cost a married couple up to $2k more vs. a couple who cohabitate.
Skippy can’t win, he gets beat up in divorce and now the government will stick him cause he’s married.
Oh and BTW those “cadillac” plans will hit down as far as people making $200k.
But the perception among us common folk is that government is in cahoots (wait a sec while I spit out my chewing tobacco) with, wait for it..big business..
Tea folks are MAD at the Republicans too.
Each day I am more amazed.
It’s a real pleasure living here.