This post is for Phib’s chattering class.
One of the most bracing things about going to a blog where hard core wingnuttery prevails-is having to defend common sense. It’s hard-because unlike what they would have you believe-facts are not relevant, and they are more than willing to attack you personally.
Yet like Lex-they defend the high quality of their discussion.
But the facts, indeed, seem to have a liberal bias-at least when it comes to the debt ceiling negotiations.
And now they’ve lost Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. In his “Talking Points” monologue last night, the prominent conservative said “Republicans need to accept the need to raise more revenue,” suggesting a 1 percent national sales tax to help deal with the deficit.
Admit it Bill-I’ve been right all along.
Or witness this from Lindsey Graham-another member of a dying breed in the GOP:
“Our problem is we made a big deal about this for three months. How many Republicans have been on TV saying, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit.’ You know, Mitch [McConnell] says, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit unless we talk about Medicare.’ And I’ve said I’m not going to raise the debt limit until we do something about spending and entitlements.’ So we’ve got nobody to blame but ourselves,” Graham told reporters after a GOP caucus lunch.“We shouldn’t have said that if we didn’t mean it.”
Now admittedly , to the truly retarded devoted, Graham is not considered a “real Republican”-in spite of a lifetime of service to the Republican party. Because the generation leading the country down the path to econonmic failure does not really care about the debt, the budget, or anything else, but reinforcing their own selfishness and imposing it on others.
There is a reason that “true believers rail on and on” about socialism, and “taking money from others” and government confiscation-and I hit on it in the last post. They don’t think anything bad is going to happen to them. They believe their jobs are secure, they fancy themselves as more savvy investors than the rest of us, and they beleive that God sanctions their lack of charity towards their fellow human beings. No one, AND I DO MEAN NOONE, has real problems-there is always blame to lay somewhere else.
They even cite Jesus-“The poor will be always with us”.
Of course, that, like mosr biblical points is always taken out of context-especially since even Jesus acknowledged that the poor may always be here, it was our obligation to help them-and do the best we could to reduce their suffering. Even if it didn’t always succeed 100%. And even Jesus had a “war on poverty” spelled out in The Revelation. Speaking of charity, that whole idea of paying a bill on sins He hadn’t earned strikes me as pretty damn socialist, if you ask me.
And unlike most insurance companies-Jesus did not charge for his healings. But hey, why let the context get in the way of wrapping evil up in a Christian dressing?
But I’m the class warrior.
They cannot admit the truth-this fight is not about Obama. You want to have a fight about the federal budget? Do it when you pass the federal budget-but for God’s sake don’t screw over millions of people just to appease a bunch of people schooled in ignorance:
What happens when you take the certainty of an ideologue, mix in an unhealthy dose of economic illiteracy, shameless demagoguery, and bring the combustible mix to a boil on the national stage? Quite possibly national default and a new recession.
The nature of this mix—and the corner into which GOP leaders have painted themselves—is neatly illustrated in the latest poll numbers from The Washington Post and the Pew Research Center.
As the Post’s Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake note today:
The data suggests that those who identify as Republicans who are supportive of the tea party not only view themselves as far more educated than the average person on the current debt debate, but are also far more worried about the impact if the debt limit is increased.
More than eight in 10 tea party supporters (81 percent) said they understand “what would happen if the government does not raise the federal debt limit” — far more than the 55 percent of all respondents who said the same thing.
Three quarters of tea party supporters said that they were more concerned that raising the debt ceiling would “lead to higher government spending and make the national debt bigger,” while just 19 percent said they were more worried that “not raising the debt limit would force the government into default and hurt the nation’s economy.”
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The message from the numbers? Tea party backers simply don’t believe that not raising the debt limit by Aug. 2 is all that big a deal — and they feel that way because they believe they understand the issue inside and out.
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If a significant chunk of his House members don’t fear the consequences of a default, it’s very difficult for Boehner to make the case for the fierce urgency of now in the debt debate.
While the overwhelming number of economists—and even prominent non-economists like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell, who have both stated that not raising the debt ceiling is unthinkable—say that failure to raise the debt ceiling could have a host of nasty consequences for the economy, like a global financial crisis, downgrading of the U.S. credit rating, and a second recession … the Tea Party crowd has anointed itself a group of experts who know better.
So then, as the economy fails they will simply cheer-because hating Obama is more important than anything else. Otherwise they would have passed the raise and concentrated on defeating Obama in 2012-and with not allowing them to be blamed for a 3000 point drop in the DOW. ( My personal prediction for how much it will drop in two weeks after default.
This is what I was talking about in the previous post. The will not to believe. You don’t like Obama-then fine-put him out of office through the Constitutional process.
But don’t hate your fellow citizens.
And URR-you of all people should know this.