Far East Cynic

Learning a new language…

Here is a primer on the “dog whistle” listeners. You too can learn to speak teabag in a just a few lessons!

  1. Intersting, funny how in the video that they did not list any of the same Dem. congressmen who also get the same campaign contributions. No one in Congress can throw stones on that issue.

    Also Skippy, please tell me about how you hate to trave by air and go through the TSA screeners (hired by the Gov’t), or the post office (another gov’t agency).

    Then maybe you may understand that it is not so much anti-Obama, but anti-“how the government operates.” Just remember your military days when at the end of Sep. each year, a mad rush was made to spend all the money you managed all FY in order to “balance the books” and not get any taken away next FY. Or how this FY, most TAD funding (I must admit, I too am a G-man myself) is on hold until the right bill gets signed, and how what we planned for will get eaten up in the costs of paying for the surge to Afgh.

    Now, do you really want that kind of service, not being able to do anything until some person who is more concerned with not authorizing a treatment payment due to end of FY constraints or many of the other excuses we give to determine your medical treatment.

  2. It does rather boggle the mind that ANYBODY can take and defend the position that the government can provide better and cheaper service. AMTRACK, USPS, MEDICARE, etc. One would think even brain damaged losers would understand that government option health care would be stupid beyond belief. One just doesn’t know democrats I guess.

  3. I think you miss the issue-there are some things that need to be done by government. (TSA being one of them-and the Post Office too-FWIW I have pleasant experiences with our post office here in Shopping Mall). The real point of the video is how the tea baggers have abandoned any reasonable set of inquiry or effort to solve serious problems that exist in this country. Tax cuts do not solve anything-nor are they as oppressed as they think they are. Rather than work to fix these problems-and they do have contributions to make to the solution-instead they just pout like spoiled children. That is why I can’t stand them and will mock the tea baggers at everyopportunity.

  4. NO SKIPPY, we DO understand the issue, and this Congress thinks that ramming a bill through will solve a problem by remaking the wheel. We(Teabagger’s) agree there are problems with the system, but the answer is not to put that control in the hands of bueaucrats. What gets at you is not that we are spoiled children pouting, its that we make our voices heard.

    At times me thinks that you are just trolling.

  5. That’s pretty funny. The point is, the teabaggers continue to whip themselves up into a lather over health care, budget deficits, etc and that is fine. However, their only response is to stamp their feet and call people Hitler. I’d like to see one teabagger proposal to fix anything, a n y t h i n g.

    How would a teabagger have handled the banking collapse? How would a teabagger have handled unemployment? How would a teabagger handle health care? How would a teabagger handle Af? How does a teabagger propose to narrow the budget deficit while maintaining commitments to social security, medicare, medicaid, maintaining national infrastructure and funding the military? And status quo does not count as a new idea.

    It is fine to be angry with government and to demonstrate that anger. There are a lot of things that piss me off too. I’d rather spend my time fixing the problem than the blame.

  6. Paul, we have offered our ideas, but they seem to fall on deaf ears.

    When its proclaimed that certain banks are too big to fail, all you do is reward them for screwing up. By allowing those that do not run their business soundly to be bailed out with OUR TAX money and you allow bureaucrats to pick the winners and losers, that is defacto gubment takeover.

    Tort reform, HSA, tax breaks for the uninsured.

    Slow spending, cut waste, pork, lower taxes. Get out of the way!

  7. Paul, as far as a group trying to lay blame, it would seem to me that all I heard out of the far left Dems (Barney Frank, etc.) was that it was all Bush’s fault. Yes part of it was, but those in Congress on both sides of the aisle are to blame.

    Funny how when all of the G8 summits and other meetings are held in the staes like the last one in Seattle, those on the left chose to riot and demonstrate and destroy property. Last time I checked, at the Tea Party rallies I have not heard of wide spread destruction and rioting. Sure there have been some rough stuff, but namely the ones on the far left mocking those people.

  8. AFL-CIO, SEIU and Huff post are NOW against the health care bill…Hmmmm
    And citigroup getting a tax break?
    Perhaps the tree of liberty does need some……..

  9. Couple of things, 1. TARP was a Paulson/Bush idea, those funds were never used as advertised and it is worrying that the banks in question are scrambling to pay them back before the end of the year so their execs can get bonuses. Not too much has changed regarding the so called “toxic assets” which means it was all overblown in the first place or somebody is putting lipstick on a pig.
    2. Too big to fail is here to stay, unfortunately, Obama and Geitner are going to do nothing, it will be business as usual on Wall Street until the next financial meltdown, which will not be that far off.
    3. Tort reform is just not going to happen in a democratic congress, too many of those guys are trial lawyers themselves, they would never pass anything that would hurt their earning potential. Unfortunately, this seems to be key in trying to reign in health care costs.
    4. HSA? I have one of those, it gives me tax free copays on exoribitant health insurance. The medical insurance industry needs to have it’s head chopped off then handed back to it. Health insurance costs me over $1,100 per month for me and my family, and we are all healthy. If we weren’t we’d have been denied.
    5. Slow spending, cut pork, lower taxes? Good luck with that unless term limits are passed. By term limits, I mean a constitutional amendment putting term limits on every politician in the country, from city councilman to us senator. The system is rigged in favor of those in power staying in power. Power corrupts.

  10. Paul, I think you answered your own questions about why people don’t believe in the current brand of proposals that are being given by Congress.

    By saying that Tort reform is not going to happen is the same as saying companies are too big to fail. If they are trial lawyers that is their business, but the whole point of the Tea Baggers is to make those we elected stand by the oaths that they took when they were sworn in, to help for the common good not line thier pockets with money from lobbyists.

    HSA, I am glad that you and your family are healthy, and I am all for business making a buck, but I am sure that your health insurance company is making money off you, but if we can try to control the other prices in health care, maybe their costs would not be so great and they wouldn’t try to gouge a faithful payer like yourself (I know I am dreaming on that one, but I hope you get my point).

    Yes TARP was a Bush era deal, but Obama has had a few “bombs” himself. The second bill that they passed after they rushed through gave increased unemployment benefits. I am for that. But they did not look “down the line” and those increased benefits did something to many that set them back, it increased their income and made them ineligible for food stamps. So someone getting a few extra bucks in unemployment insurance now looses their food stamps and now has to pay more for their food (I am not talking about the cheats on the program, but people who lost $500 of food stamps just by getting an extra $100 in unemployment insurance; I know someone personnally who that has happened to, a former mid level executive in my family).

    So to ask those elected to take a little more time, come up with a better solution I don’t think is asking too much.

  11. Wow! 10 comments in one day-I’m going to have to insult doucheteabaggers more often!

    You guys all kind of missed the point ( except for Paul). Things like Tort reform have their place, but as has been pointed out by wiser minds than mine have pointed is that is simply a treatment for a symptom-its not the cure for the disease. The key problem is that when not 100% of the population has access to health insurance ( or whatever form) then there is a big problem. The only winners are the rich insurance companies. Teabaggers have refused to acknowledge that fundamental truth-or tried to do anything to rectify it. They simply brag about how great the status quo is-while ignoring the facts. If they would get their (fat) asses off the streets and stop shouting so much -they might actually be able to make an impact on the final plan.

    HSA’s are the same kind of bandaid-and I’ll tell you the truth, the actually are a way to reward insurance companies and make rich people richer without doing me a damn bit of good. Besides-I am sick to death of being told I have to save for getting sick. I have to save for my retirement, I have to save for emergencies, I have to save for my house, and everything else I have to save for. I’d like to be able to spend some money now-while I can enjoy it. Besides-lets say for arguements sake I save 300 a month in an HSA. That only leaves me with 3600 at the end of the year. Assuming I make even a normal amount of doctor visits in a year-I can plow throught that fairly quickly. Still does not solve the problem that my company provided health insurance has gone up in premiums twice in a year and a half. ( yes I have TRICARE too-but I earned that and even then I still have to end up paying a significant amount out of pocket.)

    How do tax breaks for the uninsured solve anything? Since everyone should be allowed to be insured by preventing insurance companies from denying coverage.

    The simple truth is that teabaggers have fallen into a trap-of listening to drivel and thinking it is knowledge. I’m also sick of hearing how highminded their protests are and how much better their protest are than “left wingers”. Both are stupid and look stupid. When they start protesting obscene spending on two useless wars-they might be taken more seriously. Or maybe if they actually sat down and offered a constructive solution that involved something other than tax cuts and gutting the social safety net.

    People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. – Kierkegaard.

  12. Got up early to shovel snow, I don’t think I have a big enough shovel for this “snow job”!

  13. Skippy,
    I hate to go nuclear on you, but what would have happened if the tea baggers would have been around when the UFSPA law was enacted. If a group of divorced former military men and their associated persons had been there to at least demand to be heard before that law was put in place, I bet you would not have as many horror stories as you do now.

    I think the Tea Baggers are there to make sure that at least they are being heard. If anything the ones who should really be worried are the Republicans, since most of the tea baggers would probably lean more to the GOP than the Dem.

    Rushing legislation through to push an agenda is not how the system was set up to be run. Do we need health care reform, I say yes. But jsut pushing it through without reading or knowing what is in it, or how it would be worked in detail is pretty wrong.

    Don’t you wish they would have been able to explain how the UFSPA would be enacted long ago instead of the “smoke and mirrors” they presented to everyone. Just remember, members of Congress don’t fall under the UFSPA rules, just like they will not be affected by what comes out in the new Health Care Bill.

    1. But the simple truth is that the former military men would have been dismissed as crazies-just like the teabaggers are now. What really needs to happen in both cases is a need to get people who will shape the bill in a certain way-and that does not happen on the steets or with signs calling a democratically elected President a Socialist. If the Republicans had actually shown some sembalance of cooperation instead of rooting for insurance companies and just praying for the whole thing to fail-many constructive changes could have been made. That said, any thing that kicks insurance companies in the balls and forces employers to do what they should have been doing all along is a good thing.

      The better question to ask is what if those miltary men had a whole news network embleishing their cause and a whole host of newscasters dictating the script-just like is happening with tea baggers now. Left wing protestors are just as deluded-but they don’t have an organized media presence unlike what happens on Fox News. And as much as you may want to say the “MSM” is that way-there is no such thing.

      You don’t get heard with stupid pictures of Hitler or defacing the President-which is what also happened to the anti-war protestors. You get heard by winning elections and that is not done by writing off moderates in your party as traitors. That is why the Democrats will lose seats in 2010 and why the Republicans lost them in 2008 and 2006. The mass is in the middle and they want some sort of insurance reform.

      And by the way-if you remember how all this started it was about allowing people to get the same coverage as Congress-by allowing the to buy into the FEHB and making employers pay the share of premimums they are supposed to. That-along with a public option and not allowing insurance companies to drop people for getting sick or deny coverage would go a long way.

  14. Skippy, good points but I seem to remember many rallies carried out by the “Code Pink” ladies that had pictuers of Bush as Hitler and the derogatory pictures of Chaney. Not to mention a magazine cover that depicted Justice Clarence Thomas as a lawn jockey or the picture of Rice as an Aunt Jemima or the one of her acting as Topsy (slave girl from Gone with the Wind) saying “I don’t know nothin’ about no aluminum tubes”

    So, both sides throw out the the hate posters and images. I just think that with today’s vote, the Dems have assured themselves to being voted out. Like Newt did to himself back in the 90’s.

  15. That is the cycle of politics. If the bill survives though and becomes impossible for the Republicans to undo-then it will be progress. Even Social Security took time to get into its current form.

    Don’t get me wrong. Obama has two big problems he hasn’t faced yet-Pelosi and Reed. He needs to smack them down. But long term it will be the war that hurts the Democrats more than health care. Just like it was the war, not Social Security, that destroyed George Bush.