Was George H.W. Bush. Find out why, here.
For the record, I'm OK with him calling out Olbermann. Because he is right, both sides have lost any sense of perspective. And while I enjoyed watching Bush Senior's son get beat up by him, it still does not constitute any sembalance of journalism.
However, there's a point that has to be remembered. The United States is at war in Iraq-an unecessary war that has cost the lives of almost 5000 Americans, because George W. Bush had twisted ideas of how to "fix" the Middle East. And was obsessed with Saddam Hussein. I'll probably never forgive George Junior for that-definitely as long as American troops remain mired in that God forsaken country. A country which is becoming unraveled, just as the surge opponents predicted.
Nonetheless, the point remains valid. The American voter has so lowered the bar on what it expects from a President, that George Senior was the last occupant of the Oval Office who understood what needed to be done and that you govern a country from the center-not from the left or the right.
Simple truth is Bush senior could not get elected by today's electorate. Not because of anything Bush did-but because the electorate has become a lot dumber than it was in 1988. We would not have had George Jr or Obama, if the American electorate actually had the smarts to understand anything. When we live in a world where a useless whore like Sarah Palin is taken seriously as a possible presidential candidate and teabaggers, are considered reasonable parts of the political debate-well it proves my point. American voters are, by and large, stupid.
Correction: whores aren’t useless…
FUCK YEAH SKIPPY!
American voters elected that non-entity douchebag with nothing and no accomplishments and no track record of leadership or anything! So yeah, you’re quite right, Democrats, moderates and independents prove to be absolute morons.
Surprised you had the moxie to point it out since he was your candidate!
That nice lady Sarah Palin was Mayor of a city for a number of years and Governor of one of the wealthiest states in the union for awhile. What was that democratic nonentity pussy doing back when you were sucking his cock?
Seriously Skippy, PUT SOME REAL FUCKING SHIT UP HERE ABOUT WHY YOU HATE PALIN TO DEATH OR FUCK OFF AND DIE.
I have trouble believing a fellow naval officer can dip so low into shit that it runs out of his mouth. Once again, WHAT THE FUCK DID THAT WOMAN DO THAT YOU FIND SO OBJECTIONABLE? Try to stay with real facts. She was a mayor of a city. I have a mayor in my city and I’m not happy with him. I can cite a few reasons that tend towards his kowtowing to the San Diego public employee unions who tend to have their members retiring after 25 years with 150% of their base salaries. I don’t hate him to death just because he’s a RINO. I have valid reasons for despising him and the governor of my state, another RINO. I can actually articulate them.
She was a governor and she ran the state profitably. Try to give me some real answer for why you hate her for that. It can’t all be random moose aggression. WTF?
Don’t just fire off an instant response. Treat it as a white paper you might have been asked to present. Back up your insane hatred and contempt with real facts. Your research, should you undertake the project should probably take you beyond KOS, DU or FDL. Hell, be original, try public sources one week before she was selected as the running mate for RINO McCain. What did the UNIVERSE know about this lady one week before she got tapped?
Also, I’m sick to death of shit from folks like you that think Palin is fair game for any shit you care to loft her way and you still can’t pull up a single transcript from the ONE. For some reason your democratic media gave me more background information on Joe the Plumber than they gave us about the ONE. They also dumpster dived the Palins without somehow noticing anything at all about the ONE, ever.
oh yeah, skippy when you get around to this end point? Who the fuck exactly are you to call a lady a whore? Fuck you again.
Oh and Foggy, before you chime in again. Fuck you too and your ugly whore of a wife and your ugly whore daughters!
Curtis,
Thanx for your intelligent, thoughtful and cogent tirade. You have demonstrated the veracity of Skippy’s comments.
And E@L is correct.
Skippy, you shouldn’t be drinking while posting, you make it too easy for Curtis.
Curtis,
Switch to decaf, try yoga, and sign up for some nice anger management classes……..
(P.S. and continue to monitor your blood pressure – rants can be bad for you)
I was drinking beer while watching the Dodger game.
I hate Palin because she is a fraud-pure and simple. And like other members of her profession she showed her true colors when she resigned without serving out her full term. She represents a flawed view of the national dialogue in that she is willing to spend billions on worthless Arabs and not spend a dime on her own citizens. I called her a whore because that is what she is. Her actions after leaving office have shown that she is dedicated to only one cause-selling herself for money. If I had my way. she would be living in poverty because that is the only way she will understand the effects of what she says she believes.
But I will take up your challenge this week. It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
Curtis: Lighten up Francis, the list of St. Sarah’s foibles is long and well published.
Skippy, Palin may have quit early, but can you blame her? What about those Dems who were nominated for a post and quit because something in their background came up? If it were indeed just a minor glitch, and they truly have the nations interest at heart, then suck it up and roll with the punches. If it comes out that what they were doing was borderline criminal, then they are just as big as a “whore” as you call Palin since they obviously were in their jobs just for the graft they could make.
I don’t particular care for Palin, but Curtis is right. I have had members of my family send me those spam emails on how long it took Palin to get through college, and all of the small schools she went to, but went on to tell how great THE ONE is. Well, as they say in the Navy, if the minimums were good enough, then so be it. Just because one did not get an Ivy League education does not make one dumb. If it does, then there should not have been all of the hatred towards “W” since he did go to Yale.
I am sure if Blogs were around in his day, some would have been against Washington and the Whiskey Rebellion or Madison for letting the White House get overrun. The Bush’s made mistakes, and so has Obama and all of his pals.
Look at it this way, since you are former Navy, why is it that when a major exercise is run, one of the persons who has the Admirals closest ear is a JAG? Because the leaders today are too afraid to do the right thing even if it means breaking a few eggs, that goes for both sides. As far as I have seen so far, Obama is just the same as the Bush Twins, only he has a different crowd he is hanging with but they are doing the same thing, screwing the rest of us little folks.
There is something pathological about this hatred of Sarah. You, Letterman and MSNBC.
Whar are her sins? So she wants to make money. No one forces anyone to buy her books or read her tweets. or listen to anything she says and take it seriously.
When you resort to name calling its a true indicator of the paucity of your arguments against her.
Americans are as stupid as they have always been.
Too easily led and misled buy the inept, inane and sometimes insane politicos.
We get what we deserve eh???
I’m not sure how lowered the bar really is. I think it could be a very interesting debate to try to nail down what it means to be a great President. Name calling and politics have been best friends since before there was a United States. What I think has changed is the anger level of the typical blog / editorial commenter. People are angry and upset and they have found an outlet.
Now if we could just get the angry people to stop wasting their votes on the major parties and vote 3rd party, things would start to change…
Oh. The reason I posted in the first place. Honor The Fallen is a web page that documents each US soldier killed in the Middle East wars. Their count as of 10 Oct is 5202 dead.
Lest we forget.
Foggy, I’ll be the first to admit that I drag you in as an unwilling literary tool. You amount to Fennimore Cooper’s Indian Chief. Skippy likes you. He really likes you.
When he goes round the bend on HATE BITCH PALIN speak I tend to paraphrase him, take his words and apply them to the family of a guy he really likes (you Kemosabe). It’s the whole hold up a mirror so that we might see how our words can offend. He has no more grounds for calling Palin a whore than he does calling your wife a whore. I wish he’d stop it. Your charming wife and daughters have never done ought to offend me in the tiniest way just as Mrs. Palin never went out of her way to do even the tiniest injury to southern naval officer, graduate of some sort of southern gentlemen school for potty mouths at vmi or the citadel or whatever non-USMA school y’all went to.
So Skippy, she shows that she’s a complete fraud for resigning from office early? You stupid moron! You putz. Obama quit!, Biden quit! Hillary quit! Most of those scumbags promised not to quit but did! Napolitano quit! SEC ARMY quit! Shit, most of his appointees quit office! Only a moron would think this was any kind of issue. Are you a moron? Ask yourself in the morning, or maybe late afternoon when you sober up. STUPID BS #211. You fly your true colors since you prove totally immune to equal opportunity hatred for Obama, Clinton, Napalitano et al.
Foggy, going into the shoe mode here, check, double check and verify. So you’re OK with some creeps referring to wife and girls unknown personally to you as sluts and whores because you’re both sharing that total democratic party position on the necessary role for all merican women, right? You totally agree with Skippy that they’re all nothing but whores and sluts right? What’s your beef dad? You think you married a whore? You think your daughters are whores? Where the fuck were you when a fellow gulag school member decided that all of the split tails were whores and sluts? I’m a gentleman. I despise you and those like you. I live in California. You can find me if you like. Skippy has my real name and to be honest, I use it openly in every single post I’ve ever made, Foggy.
Old H-2 Guy, to provide comprehensive input…last active duty USN physical still had bp in the 110/90 range which isn’t bad for 49 year old POL/MIL guy who really likes to argue! Honesty forces me to admit that 3 months later when they remobilized me through the dental clinic that they didn’t want to write anything down. I had to point out to them that I really hate dentists and the idea that while I sat there in the chair, learned that I was to get a quick and impromptu teeth cleaning had something to do with those initial 5 sets of readings…..of abject terror!
St Paul, publish here those foibles you find so damning! Put your fingers where your keyboard is! I’m not seeing them. Break out your brave democrat talking points and let’s review them one at time.
Paul, what you said! Why don’t you spend a few minutes doing what you claim has been done and then we’ll critique it together since you’re such a flaming Palin expert. Here are your words, “Curtis: Lighten up Francis, the list of St. Sarah’s foibles is long and well published.” Well go head and tell me why dontcha! I’m sure we can compare and contrast to my heart’s content. I can point to states with job growth and you’re going to point to states with………..rain? crime? unemployment………democrats in total power?………I can point to states that are still gaining jobs……wanna look?
That Pussy Skippy and his other friends have been most remiss in detailing the flaws of the fair Palin. Give it your best shot assholes! No I don’t actually expect to hear from you again since you’ll take upon you the silence of the little lambs, skippy and foggy et al who really cannot ever come up wiith one single blooming thing to say. I can see it now, “that biotch carries two differently covered lipsticks!!!!! bitch whore!
Yep, can read you guys like a book.
Hey Froggy, you’re an expert on house slaves according to Skippy, what’s the deal on that according to your limited understanding? I’m sure a fast retort such as yourself can come up with hosts of reasons for hiring a “whore” like Michelle, but back, at a hospital in Chicago and then terminating the position with extreme prejudice when the hospital sugar daddy reaches the big time (president) and takes her away with him,is OK, RIGHT? She did have that rich garden slave position to look forward to right, right there on the DC plantation?
Don’t be bashful Foggy. You and Skippy put skin in this particular game. You both accused Palin of being nothing but a whore as Mayor and as Governor. LICK IT! EAT IT! Respond if you’re not a total contemptible weasel. I recognize one lady with class. You might see two. Mine happens to be a self made women and yours….what is she really. She’s what she is. Her husband and his connections got her her job and the second that those rules changed, she was fired and the position was never filled again. Check me if I’m wrong you two losers, there is a governor in Alasaka now? and a mayor in Wasilla?
It is a wee bit beyond 1930 here in San Diego. I’ll always have time to jam a surfboard up your asses sideways each and every time you decide to launch on yet another one of your Mrs. Palin nutjob attacks. For simplicity, it might be best to think of me as one of Madame Palin’s cousins. Yes. That should work. You stupid ignorant fucksticks keep your stupid fuckstick opinions to yourself or back it up with facts.
I’m ashamed and disgusted to know that you morons call yourselves naval officers. Knock it off!
Wow Curtis. Interesting read. Wish I was a full fledged card carrying psychologist or psychiatrist Then I might be able to put the appropriate DSM code on your psychopathology. As a longterm observor of human behavior my guess is Skippy (and I by agreeing) hit too close to the truth and your psyche is unable to adjust to reality and thus your personal attacks not only on me but my family.
Is Palin a useless whore? Depends upon how one defines “whore”. She has sold her position and person for financial gain. So yes she qualifies. But so do most the rest of us sell ourselves and talents.
My problem with Palin is she never exhibited to me any understanding or willingness to understand. She was/is a pretty face who claims to hold political views that found favor with the extreme right wing of the Republican party. McCain chose her in a vain attempt to suck up to that lunitic fringe and in doing so he ignored those who decide elections in todays polarized American politics- 30-40% of those of us who try to evaluate the issues and people involved. The lunatic fringe to the left and right vote their ideology.
My vote in last election was decided when McCain bowed to the Bush team and chose an ideology.
BTW my name is Charles. I spent 8 years in Uncle’s Army. Never in Navy. Brother-in-law is retired USN.And I am proud to consider Skippy a friend.
Curtis, dude, take a pill or something. I am not a democrat, never have been, never will be. I am in independent, I’d characterize my views as Constitutional Federalism.
No party should be in total power or else we will end up with a dictatorship. That is why these wild pendulum swings to the left and right are bad, as some point, it is going to go too far and not come back.
Perhaps “whore” is a too strong a word and not something that I would choose to use, however, the figurative use of the word fits the subject. She has sold out anything and everything to further her own political career. She is a weak member, a political player who changes her mind depending on which way the wind is blowing. Before the Vice Presidential campaign, she never set foot outside of the country. She demonstrated very little awareness of anything other than small town, ah shucks, America. While that is nice in a nostalgic kind of way, the country is bigger than that, we have bigger problems that require bigger solutions.
Take the whole “bridge to nowhere” statements. She campaigned for the bridge to nowhere during the governors race. She only came out against it when the US congress was about to kill it anyway. Then it became a stump speech about how she was fiscally responsible.
Then there is the general economy in Alaska, which she really had very little to do with. She got lucky when the global energy crunch hit and oil revenue began pouring into the state. She is so anti-tax, so anti-wealth redistribution, anti-big government that she soaked the oil companies for more royalties to disburse to the citizens of Alaska.
Resigning the governorship to save Alaska is a bunch of bull. She resigned because the ethics violations were building up and were likely to be proven true had she stayed in power. Resigning was the only way she could hope to keep her name clear for any further political aspirations.
I could go on, but I have to go to work now.
Foggy/Charles
You wrote, “My problem with Palin is she never exhibited to me any understanding or willingness to understand.”
Understand what you stupid twit?
You equally stupidly wrote, “My vote in last election was decided when McCain bowed to the Bush team and chose an ideology.” What in your current state of dementia constitutes an ideology? Some might call ideology party politics or even a party platform or a party base. If you don’t happen to agree with that party crap, then you’re a member of another party by definition, aren’t you? You voted for your party and you and Skippy delight in coming here to announce that that bitch is a whore because you disagree with her party politics. If either of you had the balls to announce that you are full fledged gelded democrats I would not be arguing the point with you. Slipping your deceptive little lying weasel tongues under the tent wall to announce that she’s a whore whilst you’re wearing the guise of republicans or moderates……please. Give me a break. You probably haven’t taken your lips off Al Gore’s balls in months.
Paul, are brain damaged? You wrote: “No party should be in total power or else we will end up with a dictatorship.”
You’re a genius! has it escaped your notice that the Democratic Party has both houses of the Legislature and the Presidency? What have they set as their goals while in office? Here’s a homework assignment for, read up on who this government is supporting overseas, Chavez, Castro, Ahmadinijad, Putin, Zelaya, etc. You just go on over there and read up on American support for dictatorships of the left, last seen sponsored by the left just prior to 1941.
Precisely. The great republican party gave us a RINO and a Republican. McCain was as much a republican as Bill Clinton was. Some of us were delighted to find a fiscal conservative as his running mate.
Yeah, OK Paul, I read the rest of your DU talking points. Never mind. I’m sure your local state has issued an Amber alert for your missing juvenile mind.
Hi Charles,
Reread your bit about “Wow Curtis. Interesting read. Wish I was a full fledged card carrying psychologist or psychiatrist Then I might be able to put the appropriate DSM code on your psychopathology. As a longterm observor of human behavior my guess is Skippy (and I by agreeing) hit too close to the truth and your psyche is unable to adjust to reality and thus your personal attacks not only on me but my family.
Is Palin a useless whore?”
I get it now. It’s OK for you and your friends to call other ladies whores but when somebody points out that you married one and raised some that is somehow beyond the pale!
You fucking loser! You total and complete scumbag. You no doubt gained your appreciation for the gentle sex from your alma mater.
Douchebag, read what you wrote above. You find no problems attacking other’s families and go all psycho when anybody takes umbrage at how you attack other families and uses your own words to label your family. My definition for that is that you are a totally contemptible asshole and so is your good friend. You have no manners and were raised by dogs.
Yea,and “Your mother is an hamster and your father smells of elderberries!”…
“Now go back where you came from you silly English knnnnnnniget or I will taunt you for a second time!”
The silence of the little lambs is near deafening!
My daughter’s little stuffed sheep makes more noise than you lot.
There were several of you that promised to deliver the dirt on the good Lady Palin…. It’s been some time now…..Just wanted to let you know that I’m still waiting……oh, and there’s more to dirt than, how did Skippy put it? Oh yeah, it went something like this, “I hate Palin because she is a fraud-pure and simple” Arguments, if we can call it that, like that, kind of passed out of big boy lexicon not later than the 5th grade unless you were the type to attend a southern military school known for their sexist and racist behavior…. [oh what the hell skippy, damn them with a big brush right! That’s your modus vivendi]
Pathetic you lot. Just pathetic. I can’t recall if foggycharles was planning to reengage at this point or not. Most likely not. He’s probably reviewing every single post he anonymously wrote as “foggy” to see if his whore has grounds for divorce.
Or perhaps, he is spending his time profitably reading Mark Twain’s Literary Criticism of James Fennimore Cooper. I recommend it to all 3 of you.
Actually its been more fun just to lob the grenade and watch you fall on it.
However, your criticisms of Foggy have crossed the line of civil behavior-he’s done nothing to deserve that kind of tirade from you. EVER.
You’ll get your rebuttal in good time. This is October you know-and I just found out I have to be on the road next week. Since poverty does not become me well-I do have work to do as well.
Let me ask you a question. If Palin were a man-would you be so vehement about her? I tend to doubt it.
Oh, there you are! Didn’t see you lurking behind that bush over there after you “lobbed” your hand grenade. Did you have to pull it out of your pal Foggy’s mouth or does he just type what you tell him to?
Truthfully, you artful little dodger, your umbrage at how I addressed your debased friend’s wife and daughters goes a very long way towards showing me just what kind of a contemptible little scumbag you are.
[Charles, this is where you insert how your wife of 25 years died of breast cancer last month and your beautiful daughters were killed on 9/11 in the WTC.]
YOU! YOU of all fucking people are taking umbrage because I called some dame you know a whore! You complete PUSSY!
The very next time you crawl out from under your rock and wonder why I despise you for calling my cousin a whore…..well, you understand where I’m coming from now don’t you? You and your creepy little friends.
Curtis
# Skippy-sanon 20 Oct 2009 at 9:45 pm
Actually its been more fun just to lob the grenade and watch you fall on it.
However, your criticisms of Foggy have crossed the line of civil behavior-he’s done nothing to deserve that kind of tirade from you. EVER.
You’ll get your rebuttal in good time. This is October you know-and I just found out I have to be on the road next week. Since poverty does not become me well-I do have work to do as well.
Let me ask you a question. If Palin were a man-would you be so vehement about her? I tend to doubt it.
Oh sorry Skippy. I completely failed to answer the question you posed to me. My better half pointed that out to me. I’m just going to review your whole bleat from the top. When you and your soulmate Charles, as he now calls himself, crossed the line of civil behavior-“and agreed that Sarah is whore”, [s]he’s done nothing to deserve that kind of tirade from you “and you posted that again and again and again, always with your good buddy ‘Charles’ agreement”. EVER. [Let’s look at that shall we? He called himself foggy at the time but I think the evidence shows that he, like you is a total and complete misogynist who goes way out of the way to hate on Sarah Palin.] I think you both would agree with that statement.
Dude, all you two need to do is to stop referring to a very nice lady as a whore and I’ll stop telling the truth about you. Do you think that there is even the teeniest tiniest chance that you can stop referring to my cousin as a whore? One of you used to be a gentleman {by the kindest definition}. I’m not sure about the one that blurted of his 8 years of federal service since for all I can tell, by his merits, that it was done as a prisoner at Fort Leavenworth.
Skippy and Charles, I wrote this as slowly as I could in the fond hope that you would be able to read it. I really want you both to remember that you were the very first to call a nice girl a whore and for no more reason than you don’t like her politics. I personally think it would take a shotgun to differentiate the pair of you from Taliban thugs who hate women and never hesitate to denounce them as whores. Welcome to al queda you scumbags.
Hey Skippy, I’ll be here when you get back! Don’t fucking hesitate to write! Douchebag
regards,
Curtis
Curtis, I apologize, I thought you actually wanted to talk about Sarah Palin and her supposed strengths and weaknesses, not call people names. However, when I brought up something we could talk about, you dismiss it as a democratic talking point. Perhaps so, but that doesn’t automatically make it wrong.
Your next tactic is to start calling names and launching into personal assaults on me and everyone else who has a view point different from your own. You didn’t even attempt to refute my claim, likely because facts are inconvenient and bring nothing to your side of the issue. If you debated on facts, you’d loose, so instead you jump up and down, yell, call people names and belittle their intelligence. You have nothing to add to the defense of Sarah Palin because she is indefensible.
Here is an idea, bet you can’t produce a cognizant argument that refutes my claim about the bridge to nowhere. I’ll bet you can’t produce a cognizant argument that refutes any of skippy’s claims (or anyone else’s) that Sarah Palin is a whore, that she is an idiot, a wack job, politically expedient, etc. By the way, your claim that Sarah Palin brings rain to Alaska is not founded in science, or at least any science that I am aware of. A cognizant argument means presenting researched facts, not name calling, not Fox News talking points, or Rush Limbaughesque rants, telling people to fuck off, lick it, or threatening somebody’s family.
That is something I’d like to see.
Hey Paul,
After due diligence, Fuck you.
Sorry I was not interested in engaging a total moron and asshole like you in a debate. Frankly, you’re too stupid to argue with and it will only end up with you in tears like Foggy.
Tempted to respond in kind. Thought better.
Curtis, thanks for proving my point.
Skippy,
You probably have started to realize that I don’t sleep much. Sort of got out of the habit after 2 tours as CHENG and getting older.
It is totally your website. I rather enjoy it because I always like a good argument. I’ve noticed that this is not common and many bloggers really hate trolls. I don’t think of me that way since what I appear to do here is to engage and refute hate speech. I will TOTALLY understand if you ban me as a troll. There are other places to go and enjoy an argument with like minded people who like an actual argument. Seriously Skippy-san, you can push me into the ravine and I’ll go without complaint. I think I’ve expressed my appreciation for your blog. I liked you better when you were in Japan – better pictures although the recent baseball babe was sweet! I know you liked it better over there and totally understand.
You’ve mentioned that your friend who writes under a pseudonym was offended at some of my replies. I have to confess I didn’t care much then and still don’t. I’m nth generation army and spent almost 26 years with the navy and I read books like the White Company way to young. It is unmanly to refer to women as whores unless they’ve been convicted of the crime (such as it is). Gentleman don’t do that. Christians don’t do that. (turn off the sweat pumps, I’m not a Christer)
You and your friend Charles have a massive snearing contempt for Sarah Palin. We’ve discussed this before. You appear to take your data from one side of the sphere along with Paul who wants me to refute what I regard as meaningless smears as if they had any validity. I don’t really plan to do that. In the meantime though, if you’re men enough to lob rocks at ladies, I guess you can count on me to throw them back with deep malice. Boys don’t hit girls and don’t malign them in public in total absence of fact.
I tend to regard people that derive their understanding of the world and the people in it from one point of view as ignorant. I’ve always used my name in the www. I listen to NPR and Air America and Radio Pacifica back when I lived in the Bay Area. I no longer watch any news. ( I used to have FOX on in the office at NCWG1 when I was OPS but only in the morning when it was news. When it shifted to the pundits, I turned the sound down to zero.) I used to take the Sunday NYT and read it up in Del Mar, where I used to live and spend 3 hours at the Stratford reading every page. When I got married I stopped doing that and was forced to admit that it was both a waste of time and of money.
So, I have Drudge for the headlines, his link to Fox for pointless news, Lex, Powerline, Phib, Free Market, Maggies Farm, Instapundit. I’m sure your readers are shocked and appalled but I don’t think of any of them as ultra right wing. I don’t really think that I’m in the same loony bin as leftists who only derive their info from the broadcast news, CNN and DU, KOS, Huffington et al.
I really miss SIPRNET.
I come here to cast a spear. It needs to be done from time to time. All of us get too comfortable in our little worlds. Poor Paul who wanted to have me debate the merits of a smear campaign carried out against my cousin by the lunatic morons who seem to have dedicated their whole lives to making her look evil and corrupt because there proved to be countless illegitimate scumbags that filed ethics complaints (all 20 or 29 or 50 dismissed by the courts). He then wanted to talk about the merits of the Bridge to Nowhere….That was Stevens, the senior senator who did that, Palin just agreed to accept the funding…..Stevens, you remember him right guys? The BUSH DOJ hounded him nye on to death and he was not able to run for reelection and do you recall what happened shortly afterwords you purveyors of single source news….? Do you? All charges dropped by the federal judge and his order that those liberal DOJ prosecutors all be investigated for corruption and abuse of office and abuse of authority. Maybe I’m wrong on that Paul. Why don’t you take it as your little homework assignment and provide the complete details of the Bridge to Nowhere Scandal and what the COURT found. I’m sure you’ll take your time. Like all of your ilk, you find facts so troubling to find that you’re off to Greece with a spade to dig up Diogenes and see if there is more oil in his lamp to help you with your searches once you’ve been challenged on fact. You don’t disappoint me but I’d never engage in debate with you. You know what you are and so you wouldn’t deviate from that anymore than you’d stop breathing. Seriously dude, I read a million pages getting through the Navy War College and I really really like to debate and have I mentioned, I don’t sleep much? When you come at me with facts you want me to refute, have the courtesy to have the facts checked with sources outside KOS and DU and Huffington. From time to time, take a look into the neutral corners of the web. They’re still zillions of them there. Not the aggregators. Look at sites such as Ninme or KiSP or Patterico. It’s not all insane hatred. OTOH, you’ll have trouble with Sondrakistan. She lives up there in Olympia and is surrounded by the stupidest people in North America.
You know it’s bad when the Fleet Commander asks you to provide security for two warships, one of them even named after Olympia on a port visit to Olympia and all of us are forced to conclude that the loons up there would force the USN to use serious force on the loons to keep them from making a deadly nuisance of themselves. Seriously, when you think about left loony wingnuts, I think you should examine it from our viewpoint. We canceled a port visit to a state in the United States because we were under no doubts at all that the violence and extremism that the left wing morons have arrogated to themselves would have rivaled Al Queda. Think about that. Research it on the web. Much of it is there. We all decided that the USN does not exist to beat down extreme Americans who will kill to make their extreme points. Yeah, they are a collection of PETA and ECO freaks and they don’t hesitate to kill. We didn’t need the liberal press broadcasting the navy dealing with the rioters that bring discord and unharmony to G7 meetings and opted to onload elsewhere and cancel the visit of a USN warship named after the city of Olympia to the city of Olympia.
So Skippy, the hour grows late. I relieve you of any obligation to match what you agreed above in the 4th post or whatever. I don’t actually think you could write a response that addressed the points I raised above. Like I said. None of you have presented any defensible arguments and you really don’t need to strain to produce a gnat. I know you by now well enough to know that you’ll pop up fore and present and announce some liturgy of the left about how Sarah has been accused of umpteen ethics violations shortly after she was proposed as VP. None before McCain knew her name oddly enough. Guys such as yourself and Paul and Charles and the rest don’t find anything at all odd in the fact that all the “ethics” complaints surfaced AFTER she was nominated. Seriously, you guys need to take control of your brains. You didn’t notice anything suspicious about that? You are credulous, the lot of you.
My cousin is no more a whore than ANY other politician. She did stellar service as both mayor and governor and not one of you lot has presented any particle of evidence to contradict that statement.
You all seem to be in some need of a reputable source of news. May I suggest to all of you that you subscribe to the Wall Street Journal or watch Fox News before noon when it is news and before it turns into the oreilly, hannity, beck nonnewsapalooza?
Well, there you go readers of Skippy-san. An almost profane free post from Curtis, perhaps the last, we’ll see what our host decides and I’ll be honest, I’ve had the sense that I have greatly trespassed against him. I admire his forbearance and have since the first days I posted years ago.
Charles, Paul, just went up to look once again at the caliber of your counter-arguments (previous 2 posts) and sadly, you guys punch like girls. Seriously, that was the very best you could come up with? Paul, I’m here and now because foggy and skippy call a girl names. Don’t need you to make my point do I? If you can’t take the heat, stay the hell out of the burning zeppelin! You two really are total and complete pussies.
Curtis,
You make a good point, the Gravina Island bridge was mainly a Ted Stevens project. Palin simply campaigned for a bridge Ketchikan while she was running for Governor of Alaska. She also “went along” with the project after she became governor. It was only when Congress defunded it that she came out in opposition. Yet, she stood in front of God and country and proclaimed “I told congress thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere,” in order to make herself look like a fiscal conservative, which is a lie. What would have been a more truthful statement is “I said thanks to congress for the money to build that bridge, then when it became a political lightning rod, I said no thanks and killed the project, but kept half of the federal money anyway.” Those are well established facts available from the most neutral of sources.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=loomia&loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r4:c0.0766691
BTW, “going along” with something is not a alibi.
About Ted Stevens, I believe he actually ran for re-election in 2008 and lost by a slim margin. You are correct, the current “liberal” AG overturned and vacated his conviction due to prosecutorial misconduct. The DOJ in question, however, was the Bush administration DOJ, which makes one wonder what Senator Stevens did to piss off Bush.
Regarding multiple news sources, neutral corners of the web, et al. I read a lot. WSJ, NYT, WaPo, NPR, BBC, New Hour, CSM, etc. I watch very little TV, perhaps Frontline or Newshour are the only news related shows I can tolerate. CNN, MSNBC, Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS are all in the infotainment business. Their presentation is based on getting good ratings for their advertisers. Presenting factual news items is far down on the list of priorities for those networks. I also read other blogs, Lex sometimes, phib, etc. I rarely if ever comment because there is not a lot I can say that is worth while in those environments.
Unlike you, I do sleep. I often check this blog once a day and respond in kind to anything directed at me. It it seems like I am taking a long time to respond, it is because I am working two jobs, I have a wife and two young children at home and all of that takes up a good part of my day.
Another thing, you often chide Skippy for not being a Gentleman, which is truly interesting considering some of the phrases used in your comments. I am from a Naval family, I spend 8 years in the naval service myself. My father in law (RIP) taught at the Naval War College before he retired. I would classify him as a Regan Republican. He and I have spent many a night debating, sometimes into the early morning hours, the various topics of the day. We often disagreed, I miss that. He was a gentleman. You sir, are something else altogether.
Hi Paul,
I wrote a brilliant reply to your rebuttal. Lost it all when I hit the link you provided to the WSJ to have a look at the facts there. Have you read that link recently?
Our communist AG dismissed the charges in the Stevens case simply because the federal judge in charge of the case damned 3 US Attorneys prosecuting that case for being evil bastards. The judge is kind of totally and completely immune from AG nonsense.
I see the fair Palin is reputed by the WSJ chicks to have requested 456 million $ in earmarks over 2 years whilst the won has implemented $860 million over his 3 years. There is wriggle room in the factoid but I’d point out that the Palin admin is reputed to have requested earmarks whereas the won ACTUALLY GOT ALL OF HIS $860 MILLION. I did not see how many of the Palin admin’s requests were actually funded by Stevens and the other monster senator from Alaska. You probably recall that she can’t just steal money from your kids the way that senators and Congress do, right????
You wonder about the gentlemen thing and I wrote something along the lines of, I’m a gentlemen from an earlier time. I’m the kind that when you called my wife, mother, daughter or cousin a whore and slandered and libeled, would challenge you to a duel and we’d see who was man enough to show up. Liberals seem to think a gentlemen is somebody who wears a cape and tophat to the opera.
At any rate, much as I enjoy the discussion, I’ve suggested that our host push me off. Some of you seem to enjoy a clubby new “liberal” gentlemen’s atmosphere where you’re free to indulge in rabid and pusillanimous behavior without reason or criticism and sulk when somebody comes along and beats you with a clue stick.
Oops, got to go, Lingerie Football is on!