I have to admit, a sense of time gone by and a touch of sadness hangs around the buildings around the Naval Aviation Schools Command building-building number 633. The young people have no idea what the place was once like, back when AOCS was going strong and Marine Drill sergeants were running their candidates around and to and from the obstacle course. ( Which is also gone by the way). Oh, the buildings are in use all right-but they don’t have the sense of life and expectant dreams that they had back in the day. The complex of buildings seems to have lost its impressiveness and awe-inspiring that it once had-especially when viewed against the backdrop of the NATTC (The enlisted “A” schools that were moved to Pensacola when NAS Millington was closed) and the sprawling maze of buildings they have put over on Chevalier Field. Sure change is necessary, but no one is ever going to convince me that moving AOCS to Newport was somehow a good idea.
Also, for me, it was the first time I had seen the new khaki enlisted uniform in great numbers. At first, I thought I was looking at a Marine-then I noticed the pants were blue, not green. I think the CPOs have a right to be pissed off. The new uniforms suck with a Capital “S” if you ask me. Plus, everyone walking and running around seemed so damn young. I saw a LCDR walking to his car-he barely looked as if he had been weened, much less an O-4. Comes from working on a floor full of old retirees I guess. Ravages of age.
But it is the pictures you want to see right?
Here is the Naval Aviation Schools Command:
I started class there on 30 July 1979, a long time ago and a galaxy far away. Somehow it seemed more impressive then-especially since, and it’s changed since then if you did not make it driving a destroyer or a frigate was in your future. THAT alone was a great motivator. The buildings where AOCS where: It surprised me more than a little bit, that this was all the marker there was commemorating the AOCS graduates who gave their lives in the service of their country. Too small and not noticeable enough. I had to go back to see it while running: Here is the trivia quiz what’s wrong with the next two pictures? Here is what the sign says the livery on the F-18 static display is supposed to be: So I should see a bowling cat right? Wrong. At first, I thought it was a mistake-then it dawned on me it was not. Go look closely at the name on the cockpit-its Scott Speicher. The airplane is painted in the colors of his squadron VFA-81. It’s the sign that needs to be changed-not the livery-so that passers-by can know the true story about him. Turning towards the waterfront, I saw nothing when once there was a lot: That used to be all old hangars. Can’t remember what they used them for-save for one had a boxing ring in it. Got the stuffing beat out of me in a match with a really tough Marine, who-unlike me had boxing training and liked it. Back in the day, it was felt boxing taught you about the fighting spirit. With the advent of “diversity”-they stopped doing that. Seems a shame, two women fighting? A lot of people might pay money to see that. They had no problems 30 years ago letting men beat each other up though. Talk about a double standard. However, if there is one picture that captures the changes that have taken place at NAS Pensacola, I would have to say this one: On the left are small sleek boats that have USAF painted on the stern. Sleek and modern. And like the Air Force probably useless for anything other than dragging around water survival students. Whereas on the right, is the ubiquitous utility boat-probably hijacked from some carrier slowly rusting in some shipyard somewhere. Ugly, big, ungainly-it nonetheless captures the versatility that young Naval Aviators and Flight officers will have to deal with. And, more than a few of those young Naval Aviators and Flight Officers will spend a long 4-6 hours shepherding drunks back to the ship in one of those. Better they see them early! Evidently, the Air Force has moved in, in a big way. They were building a simulator building out at Sherman Field and there were USAF buildings in a couple of places down here by the sea wall. No more training carrier at the pier though………………. Does anybody stop here anymore? And finally, no trip to NAS Pensacola is complete without a stop at its AC Read Golf course. The S.O. and I lucked out and got our round in before the rain started. I even broke a 100!
Driving ships beat hell out of the USAF plans to shove me into a hole in the ground in Minot or some other frozen tundra.
Can’t argue with that-but making it through flight training and being a part of Carrier Aviation beat both of the other alternatives.
That said, I preferred the idea of being an OOD to being a platoon leader-thus I went in the Navy and not the Marine Corps.
So I should see a bowling cat right? Wrong.
minor nit — VF-14 was a top hat, not Felix (who was VF-31 IIRC).
– SJS
You are correct sir. But all my favorite squadrons are gone…………
Now get back to work! The dark lord demands it!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane; I’ve a picture somewhere of your truly standing in front of NASC HQ with brand new ensign shoulder boards, 30 APR 1979.
3 months in AOCS changed my life forever (and for the good). Again, thanks for sharing.
Remember, no one ever flunked out of SWO school and was forced to become a Naval Aviator
You Stein raise such a respectable point and yet so many “chosen ones” who washed out of flight school also washed right out of surface warfare as the dung beetles they were. Most of the failed nukes made it OK but I don’t recall a single officer wearing wings of gold that made it to Fleet OOD. There must have been some character flaw that transcended self preservation as an airedale and some 05 or 06 trusting some failed fallen angel with the lives of 300 to 5000 men safely abed in their racks whilst the failed gentleman of the air negotiated the tricky pattern of NOT RUNNING INTO SHIT. It strikes me that the leading exemplars of RUNNING INTO SHIT are carriers. You may dispute if you like.
Myself, I only knew the one fallen angel who showed up with his somewhat grubby golden wings and he was sacked and sent home in September of ’84 because he was not smart enough to drive a ship. It’s odd though that some had given him wings of smudge before his final checkride only to cast him on the beach or on surface warfare for another chance. He failed.
How many has aviation cast upon the surface community and how many were instead offered transition as prop jocks or helo pilots instead?
You puling bastards make me sick with your stupid contempt for alt av. For those of us who gave it our best shot to fly but were shot down by our eye sight I don’t even want to hear shit from NFOs.
So Stein, Fuck You!
Curtis,
Must have tweeked a nerve.
Sorry you never got to fly, as a 20/200 NFO, prior to LASIK, I was was quite happy to earn the double anchor wings. I personally know of at least an even dozen gents with gold wings who also qualified at Fleet OODs, the ANAV on every CV/CVN that I ever rode on was OOD qualified, as were any number of other motivated 1310/1320 who went for it. I also rememember 2 guys from my AOCS class that bilged out of primary who at least made it to the O-4 level with SWO pins.
Generally speaking, as far as I remember, and I’ve been gone 9 years, washing out of one community in aviation gets you a transition to another warfare community, the prop and helo communities did as a rule not want another communities washouts, and I support that. But then again I was self loading baggage in the Hummer, and happy for the opportunity to fly (or ride).
In my VT-10 class was a SWO LT who got a warfare transition, in my last fleet squadron i served with another guy who did the same thing, and I was a 1630 who wized up halfway into my first tour and saw that flying was alot more fun than sittiing in CVIC for 16 hours a day.
have a nice day!
And I cruised with Stein on two cruises, one per designator-so I can attest to his good character. Besides, Curtis, you may be wheeled into the operating room one day with him standing over you ready to perform surgery on you, so maybe you want to be a little nicer to him. He’s a man of many talents.
I work with a washed out aviator who commanded an FFG BTW. He’s a pretty good guy-for a SWO. 🙂