Far East Cynic

This deserves a long reply………

Because some things need context and explanation and its better to do it over here-than to try to explain it over there.

To some degree all the upset over having a photo exercise with Air Force One over the New York City is manufactured outrage-on both sides of the political fence. It was really not that big a deal.  I’m not saying it could not have been handled better-but some of the rhetoric since then is just a little over wrought.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck.

Clearly, in hindsight, there were some things as far as public notification and /or “conditioning” the public of New York, that could have been done better. If you Google the news reports you become quickly aware that there was a breakdown in communication between the FAA and the City of New York-although I agree with one of Lex’s commenters that someone in the city knew about the fly by-but did not pass it on high enough or early enough.

However,  the over reaction in response to the photo ex probably ensures that no other military aircraft will get to make a flyby picture over America’s largest city. Which in turn will deprive us of the opportunity to see cool pictures like this:

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And not allowing Air Force One to participate in flyovers will deprive them the opportunity to have cool pictures to put up in various air terminals like this:

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Everybody needs to calm down a bit.

First of all-a unit like the 89th Airlift Wing does not just put an event like the New York flyover on its flight schedule. They plan it, they vette it up the chain of command-in this event to the White House Military Office. They coordinate with the FAA for airspace.

I can guarantee you that the plan was thought out pretty thoroughly and I can bet just as assuredly the idea that the people of New York would panic was probably not one of the top ten concerns in putting the mission together. It may have been discussed,  but I can think of a couple of things that had a higher priority on the risk management front.  And should have had higher priority. Things like:

1) Avoiding a mid-air between the two aircraft.
2) Route of flight and how to get in and out of the airspace
3)Making sure all the required clearances were on file and that there was a paper trail showing it was on the up and up.
4) Maintaining separation and how to split up if the fighter lost sight of the bigger aircraft.
5) What happens if any of the aircraft go down. ( Air Force One going down during a photo op is pretty big PR nightmare in and of itself).

If my suspicions are correct-it was assumed that the FAA would take care of the necessary city notifications. After all, its the FAA-not the city-that owns the airspace above New York.

An Obama administration official said the mission was “classified” by the military and that the FAA, which controls much of the airspace over Manhattan, did what the military asked. “The mission was to send [the aircraft] up to get a picture of it flying around the Statue of Liberty,” this person said. “They said they needed to update their photo files.” President Obama wasn’t aboard.

The New York photo shoot wasn’t the only one planned. The White House had scheduled a follow-up session on May 5 or May 6 in Washington, D.C., according to two government officials. The D.C. flyover has now been canceled, a government official said.

Louis Caldera, a former Secretary of the Army who runs the White House Military Office, took the blame. “While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it’s clear that the mission created confusion and disruption,” he said. “I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused.”

I’ll go out on a limb here and say-the White House military office ought to be able to approve a mission like this with out having to say “mother may I” to the President. In normal world this would be how things are done with the decision delegated to the appropriate level.

These are not normal times however.

However on the surface, it would seem all the right things were done:

On Thursday night, city officials say, a junior mayoral aide had been alerted to the flyover by the Federal Aviation Administration, which requested that it be kept secret. Someone in City Hall alerted the New York Police Department, but no public announcement was made.

Marc Mugnos was reprimanded for not apprising the mayor, and a disciplinary letter was placed in his file, a spokesman said. Mr. Mugnos couldn’t be reached for comment.
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A low-flying airplane escorted by military jets sent worried workers fleeing offices in the New York City area. The FAA said it was a “photo op” conducted by a unit of the Air Force.

The email sent to City Hall describes a “flying photo op” — government-speak for a publicity photo — to include two or possibly three passes over the area. The email, sent by an FAA official and reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, lists flight patterns and specifies a photo-op altitude of 1,000 to 1,500 feet.

The email specifies that the information “only be shared with persons with a need to know” and “shall not be released to the public.” It also says that, “Due to the possibility of public concern regarding [Department of Defense] aircraft flying at low levels, coordination with Federal, State and Local law enforcement agencies…has been accomplished.”

1500 feet is not that low-really. It is a good altitude to get some pictures with definition of the buildings in the background though. And the desire to limit distribution of the news is probably a habit formed by the fact that the aircraft in question was Air Force One.

The outrage about all the money it cost? Well I hate to rain on anyone’s parade-but those dead dinosaurs were going out the exhaust pipe one way or another. If not on a photo op-they would have been burned elsewhere. That money was already spent when the wing or the squadrons in question got their fuel budget for the quarter.

So you can put away the tea bags on that one.

I, for one, wish that there had been a calm explanation of the facts here and some acknowledgment that the people in the military who put this mission together were professionals who know what they are doing. It would also probably be useful to point out that aircraft flyover the Hudson all the time-there is a designated air corridor to do so. I’ve done it in my trusty War Hummer, so have plenty of other military aviators.

Maybe the whole lot of them-the people of New York and inside the White House could actually learn a thing or two from another city that had a plane fly close its buildings. I was actually there when this happened-and no one panicked :
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By the way-that would have been a good way to get the word out, tell every one you are filming a movie. That was what Hong Kong did.

  1. 1500’AGL also keeps you just out of range of small-arms ground-fire.

  2. Gee Skippy,

    Your 5 points appear to be aimed at putting the pilot’s mind at ease about the upcoming mission. You know, you’ve got everything briefed, cleared, approved, understood and agreed to the plan except you evidently don’t give a crap about the peace of mind of those on the ground. Kind of an oversight don’t you think?

    Why don’t we look at one of your follow-on overflights from a more military point of view? Let us presuppose that you were just a harmless lovable Cessna 182 and you strayed a few hundred yards into that total denial airspace over DC. You tell me, what would our cool headed air farce reaction to this minor and totally innocuous infraction be?

    I find it hard to blame New Yorkers for reacting given how the military reacts to harmless overflights over DC. Remember, they’ve evacuated Congress and the White House several times. Square that with your casual indifference to the reaction of New Yorkers to a jumbo jet at 1500 feet swanning about being pursued by 2 fighters.

    So, by lake do you mean Guntersville? I spent a lot of weekends there but it involved camping. As I recall, back then there were no ‘resorts’ or hotels.

  3. It seems that in digging down-all of the right steps were taken, and any of the mistakes made were made equally by the city government of New York.

    I don’t see you 182 example as the same-the 182 cannot request clearance into a prohibited area. Air Force One can request clearance into a pre-approved altitude block.

    The system is built on everyone doing what they should in a chain of requests. When that chain breaks down-as it clearly did here-it does not make the event unworthy of doing, it simply means that you have to figure out what went wrong.

    Besides-as a far of piece of mind goes-they blow up things and shoot guns nearby, and fly helicopters low over my house all the time. Nobody asked me what I thought-nor should they. Goes with the territory-and besides, I kind of think its cool the Soldiers get to do it.

  4. Gee Skippy,
    Global prize to you for missing the God Damned Point! From time to time you strike me as one seriously stupid individual. I notice your regular correspondents no longer leap in when I comment. Pussies that they are.

    Your plaint seems to be that the fucksticks at the white house et al all patted each other on the butt and approved a low flyover but just didn’t give a shit about the people on the ground who didn’t have the need to know so just FUCK ‘EM. Is that it?

    The word I have is that the fucksticks in the whitehouse that originated this also attached language to the rest of bubbas that it was FOUO and that some interpreted that to mean SECRET and of course we have the dirtbag in charge suddenly resigning for being an absolute idiot of a manager.

    Now why would he do that if it was just harmless fun?

    Camping? Seriously?

  5. Skippy,

    I’m pretty sure only a complete in the tank socialist could argue that this fiasco can be layed at the feet of Bloomberg.

    What do you think Froggy? Is it immolation time for the alleged leadership of NYC? Really! Who fucked up here?

    I know, passed and opening and your crew of loyal pussies won’t comment.

  6. They sure as hell won’t comment if you insult them.

    Didn’t your mom ever teach you about Thumper’s rule? 🙂

    Besides-I’m not sure if the words “loyal” and “pussy” have any business going together.