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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize what you say is true.  If the force ashore want&#039;s AIP and E3 the pentagon answer is let them pay for it (ARCENT/CENTCOM).  Nobody is really paying for helos today.  The USMC took a dive and bought the V22.  The navy just isn&#039;t buying anything that doesn&#039;t have a r in it.

NAVAIR, and lets be blunt, NAVAIR is only buying F-18 and F-35.  Did that sneak up on anybody?  Helos for sale......not seeing anything but V22 and since they won&#039;t fit on a frigate, DD or CG we don&#039;t want any.

Naval aviation is no longer a team.  The rush to sell out the hindmost is readily apparent.  But it was always thus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize what you say is true.  If the force ashore want&#8217;s AIP and E3 the pentagon answer is let them pay for it (ARCENT/CENTCOM).  Nobody is really paying for helos today.  The USMC took a dive and bought the V22.  The navy just isn&#8217;t buying anything that doesn&#8217;t have a r in it.</p>
<p>NAVAIR, and lets be blunt, NAVAIR is only buying F-18 and F-35.  Did that sneak up on anybody?  Helos for sale&#8230;&#8230;not seeing anything but V22 and since they won&#8217;t fit on a frigate, DD or CG we don&#8217;t want any.</p>
<p>Naval aviation is no longer a team.  The rush to sell out the hindmost is readily apparent.  But it was always thus.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy-san</title>
		<link>http://fareastcynic.com/?p=5158&#038;cpage=1#comment-26492</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curtis,

   P-3&#039;s are having the wings flown off them supporting troops on the ground. The AIP birds have proven of great value in both Iraq and Afghanistan-as have helicopters. Now the wings are falling off-and it will be 6+years before the first P-8 comes on line.

  The point of this quote is that Naval Aviation is a team-and needs all its capability, not just fighters. A ship with a helo deck-on deployment without a helo det is just wrong. The Navy needs helos -every bit as much as it needs F-18&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis,</p>
<p>   P-3&#8242;s are having the wings flown off them supporting troops on the ground. The AIP birds have proven of great value in both Iraq and Afghanistan-as have helicopters. Now the wings are falling off-and it will be 6+years before the first P-8 comes on line.</p>
<p>  The point of this quote is that Naval Aviation is a team-and needs all its capability, not just fighters. A ship with a helo deck-on deployment without a helo det is just wrong. The Navy needs helos -every bit as much as it needs F-18&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
		<link>http://fareastcynic.com/?p=5158&#038;cpage=1#comment-26490</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new leaf, new leaf new leafnewleafnewnewnewleaf.

DoD is in the business of buying weapon systems.  That they have a dual role in HADR is nice but so not the point.

NAVAIR buys things with wings and there is a special branch within that buys things with rotors.  They are not the same thing and never were.

P3 have not done ought for a while now yet there they are.  What exactly does a P3 do in this age?  Are they on top of Papa 65, 36 days out of Petraplovosk?  Nah, didn&#039;t think so.  Nothing&#039;s moving below.  Helos bring what to the SAG?  00 can SVTC with his skippers and has no need to rain on their flight deck.  

Armed helos strike me as a good thing but arming helos in navy colors has been right up there with channeling Zuulll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new leaf, new leaf new leafnewleafnewnewnewleaf.</p>
<p>DoD is in the business of buying weapon systems.  That they have a dual role in HADR is nice but so not the point.</p>
<p>NAVAIR buys things with wings and there is a special branch within that buys things with rotors.  They are not the same thing and never were.</p>
<p>P3 have not done ought for a while now yet there they are.  What exactly does a P3 do in this age?  Are they on top of Papa 65, 36 days out of Petraplovosk?  Nah, didn&#8217;t think so.  Nothing&#8217;s moving below.  Helos bring what to the SAG?  00 can SVTC with his skippers and has no need to rain on their flight deck.  </p>
<p>Armed helos strike me as a good thing but arming helos in navy colors has been right up there with channeling Zuulll.</p>
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